tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post8724454660387719587..comments2023-12-06T15:38:40.746-06:00Comments on Cute Sports: The Favre DramaNicolehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09062799595408709354noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post-18495412036233943912008-07-22T13:12:00.000-05:002008-07-22T13:12:00.000-05:00And clearly this is not a personal attack at all. ...And clearly this is not a personal attack at all. <BR/><BR/>Hypocritical much?<BR/><BR/>I actually think Brett handled the Hall of Fame thing very well and plan on blogging about it when I get that chance. I was surprised and have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. I have done so in the past. <BR/><BR/>You know nothing about me, yet you've made assumptions about my past. Aren't you doing the same thing you're yelling at me for?<BR/><BR/>When I was discussing personal attacks, I meant within this comment discussion, not the original post. I apologize for not making that clear. I felt as though I was referring to multiple different things that were not necessarily kosher to the original post and I wanted to point out that I was doing so to illustrate my points, not to continue to complain about Favre. <BR/><BR/>I'm certainly far from the only person out there who has this opinion of the current Brett drama and I wonder if you're out there flaming all of them as well. <BR/><BR/>You have the right to your opinion, as do I. This is my blog, therefore it's my space to express those opinions. No one has forced you to read them and you are certainly free to have your own blog in which you express your own. <BR/><BR/>You have ignored over and over my primary point and continued to pick apart smaller parts of the discussion in order to continue your personal attacks. <BR/><BR/>Other than saying he's done a lot for the franchise and fans, you have yet to address my assertion that being a winning quarterback should not give him a free and clear ability to do what he wants. <BR/><BR/>Let me once again say that prior to last week, I liked Brett Favre. It's likely that part of the reason I'm so upset about the current debacle is that I feel he's ruining what should have been nothing but great memories for people here in Wisconsin. In 5 years, no one's going to talk about the final season, they're going to talk about this instead and I think that's a shame. The very good you've said he's done for the franchise and the fans, I feel he's single-handedly undone here in just a few days. I find that sad.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09062799595408709354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post-43764072442568343902008-07-22T12:24:00.000-05:002008-07-22T12:24:00.000-05:00And its sounds to me like your a woman who may hav...And its sounds to me like your a woman who may have been cheated on because it has nothing to do with the game or how he was as a player or this situation.It was something in his closet.Like to see whats in yours.<BR/><BR/>Plus your dilluted.Not a personal attack??!!Read your article lady.Within your 2 first statements you call the man a douche.You call him distasteful-and boastful.Drop down some.Then hes in your opinion and "egomaniacal jerk".If thats not personal I dont know what is.And think about it Im sure brett has the internet as well.Id love know his feeeling on your NON-personal attack.<BR/><BR/>And lastly,Il say this on the award ceremony.He kept his word to a guy that ASKED HIM TO BE THERE.SEEMS TO ME THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT IT SHOULD BE WITH WINTERS AND NOT FAVRE.And he said nothing of his situation and others said minimal.<BR/><BR/>You seem to me to simply be an unhappy person that may have been wronged in your life,but Im sure Brett had nothing to do with it.<BR/><BR/>If your gonna say it remember it and back it up.Debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514345348758378661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post-28913194970209781532008-07-22T11:55:00.000-05:002008-07-22T11:55:00.000-05:00It sounds like you're an apologist and I'm a reali...It sounds like you're an apologist and I'm a realist. <BR/><BR/>I grew up here and live here now. In between, I spent 6 years in New Orleans. You don't have to explain to me about partying. I think you're making excuses/apologies. I think the guy had a wife and kids at home. <BR/><BR/>I did not say he didn't do charity, I just know that he's a guy who enjoys his privacy and therefore is not the guy out there being the face of the NFL. He didn't choose the Madden cover, so I'm not sure how you can give him credit for that. I don't think you can compare him to Peyton in terms of facetime. I believe he himself wouldn't call himself the face. He dislikes the attention too much for that now. <BR/><BR/>As someone who lived in New Orleans for 6 years and moved just 2 months prior to Katrina, I'm not going to even address that situation because it's entirely too sensitive to me and I can guarantee that you do not know anything about it in comparison. It's a highly touchy subject for me. <BR/>Let me just say that I don't think a guy returning to his home after a tragedy happens is something that makes him a good guy. It makes him human. Once again, I'm not saying he's bad, I'm just saying it's not a reason to deify him. <BR/><BR/>Here's my basic point: I'm not at all trying to put the man down. You're acting as though it's a personal attack, and I'm not meaning it to be that way. I'm saying these things to counter what you're saying. I do not walk around bad-mouthing Favre. Before this past couple of weeks, other than being sick of the constant media attention, I had no problem with him.<BR/><BR/>What I'm trying to do is be realistic and point out that he has many faults and therefore I do not believe he deserves carte blanche.<BR/>He IS NOT bigger than this team and I think his ego has taken over here. I think he's ruining his own "legacy".Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09062799595408709354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post-68398938322484615192008-07-22T10:21:00.000-05:002008-07-22T10:21:00.000-05:00And I respect yours as well but please base it on ...And I respect yours as well but please base it on facts and ones that are in context.<BR/><BR/>I dont believe the time aspect allows for the pedestal but the results and contribution does.Look at them before him and after 16 years with him.What he has done for the organization and the fans morale after sucking for so long.And if hes not an ambassador then why will he be on the next madden nfl cover?Isnt madden a poster boy as well?<BR/><BR/>The second part of your comment is totally false.That he doesnt do charity??That its not public??The fourward foundation alone have given 1.5 million in 2 states alone!To top it off and say it isnt public is funny.Check his website,I think thats public enough.How about going to the south after Katrina when our own president didnt.I suggest you google favre charity.<BR/><BR/>Ok,the third part.I live in wisconsin and have for 15 years.I will tell you one thing.Partying is not out of the norm and especially at the age he did it.So that doesnt hold water.Its simply the lifestyle here,like it or not.Yes he may have commited adultery but look who he is with.His wife.They had a problem and worked it out like adults and moved on.<BR/><BR/>Now the drugs and again Ill speak from experience.I had torn 4 ligaments in my right knee 11 months ago and they prescribed vicoden for me as well.Its legal,prescribed and needed.But I can say that while in recovery I too felt the urge from the drug.So with that in mind I asked the doctor to switch my RX.That being said you must remember I was lying on the couch all day,NOT having to practice and play football at brett level on sunday.So I guess my point is your comparing apples to oranges here.Like you said hes human.But far from a dog killer drug dealer or gun carrying thug.<BR/><BR/>As for Rogers.Please.The guy hasnt even started and has been hurt twice.There is NO question we have NO confidence in him at all.<BR/><BR/>Respectfully.Debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514345348758378661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post-91654302594810404762008-07-22T08:30:00.000-05:002008-07-22T08:30:00.000-05:00And I totally respect your opinion. I just don't a...And I totally respect your opinion. I just don't agree. I don't think that he deserves a pedestal just because he played here for so long. I don't think that he's bigger than the team and I don't think that he's earned the right to do anything. <BR/><BR/>I guess I'm not sure how you can say he's an ambassador. It's not like he's the face of the league. He's not out there doing PR or charity work. That's not to say that he doesn't do those things, but that it isn't public and therefore can't be construed as the face of the game. <BR/><BR/>In addition, this is a man who cheated on his wife, was addicted to prescription drugs and was an admitted party-er and drinker. But that all seems to be forgotten/forgiven because he's been here so long and won a ring. <BR/><BR/>I don't think those things take away from him being a great player or even a better person now, but I think they mean he shouldn't be put on a pedestal. He's human, same as anyone else.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09062799595408709354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post-86518878858843593822008-07-21T14:43:00.000-05:002008-07-21T14:43:00.000-05:00PS...sorry for the typo.In the third sentence I me...PS...sorry for the typo.In the third sentence I meant to say in a OF dog fighting and drug abuse.<BR/>TYDebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514345348758378661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post-55018479094630676452008-07-21T14:37:00.000-05:002008-07-21T14:37:00.000-05:00I personally think you both are quite obtuse.This ...I personally think you both are quite obtuse.This guy has been the face of the Packers and quite honestly the poster boy for the NFL.In a day when dog fighting and drug use he has been an ambassador for the game even in times of personal hardship in his own life.Hes given MORE than hes ever asked.Case in point,offering part of his salary to get Moss.To what?WIN.Through all this IF there is one man in the NFL today that can make his choices when he wants.It deserves to be him.He has simply EARNED IT.And Im tired of listening to jealous spot lighters like this.I honestly have never been much of a fan of his either,BUT the way you talk about a man that has given so much of himself in the total disrespectful way you have I think is appaulling and disgracefull.Ask yourself something.Did you hear all this garbage when MJ came back to the Bulls?NO!!!AND RIGHTFULLY SO.Debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04514345348758378661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20314904.post-88950364703114151392008-07-18T17:49:00.000-05:002008-07-18T17:49:00.000-05:00I'm with you on this one, everytime that players o...I'm with you on this one, everytime that players or celebrities fall out of radar, there's coincidentally some kind of newsworthy thing that happens, and unretirement or a shaving of heads, or wardrobe malfunctions... Coincidences.. i think not!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com